Dilawar, I completely agree. The pressure to close the record once the immediate technical cause has been corrected is exactly where a valuable RCA can become only a correction exercise.
Your point about testing the intended control against the actual conditions is especially important. A control should not be considered effective simply because it works under normal or common conditions; it needs to be capable of detecting the conditions it was designed to control.
I also like your distinction between "not seen" and "ruled out." That is a small difference in wording, but a significant difference in the strength of the conclusion.
This is where the audit trail becomes much more interesting: defect → technical cause → expected control → control failure → systemic cause → effectiveness of corrective action.
Thank you, Dilawar. That adds an important layer to the discussion.
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Original Message:
Sent: 09-16-2026 11:38 PM
From: Dilawar Laghari
Subject: Root Cause Realities
Ahmed, that second set of questions is the one sites skip most often, because once the capping setting is corrected the pressure to close the record is enormous. I usually ask to be shown the control that was meant to catch it and whether it was ever tested against the combinations Frank described, since a check that only works on the common case is not really a control. Your recurrence point is well put too: not yet seen and ruled out are very different claims, and the record should say which one it is.
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Original Message:
Sent: 09-16-2026 10:19 AM
From: Ahmed Rashidy Abdo
Subject: Root Cause Realities
Frank, this is a very practical example, and one point in your story particularly caught my attention: finding the incorrect capping setting explained the defect, but it may not fully explain why the system allowed that condition to reach the customer.
In my experience, this is where root cause analysis becomes more valuable. Once the technical cause is identified, I like to ask a second set of questions: What control should have detected this earlier? Why did it not? Was the setting independently verified after changeover? Were different bottle configurations adequately considered in the control plan? And why was the initial complaint classified as an isolated issue before these possibilities were examined?
Dilawar's point about the phrase "isolated issue" is particularly important here. Sometimes that conclusion is reached because recurrence has not yet been demonstrated, rather than because recurrence has actually been ruled out.
For me, an effective RCA should therefore go beyond "What caused the defect?" to "What weakness in the system allowed the cause to remain undetected?"
That distinction is often what separates a correction from a corrective action that genuinely reduces the risk of recurrence.
Thank you, Frank, for sharing a case that brings this distinction into a very practical context.
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Ahmed Rashidy Abdo
Founder & Managing Director | Quality For All (QFA)
Quality Management Consultant | Management Systems Auditor | International Trainer
Building professional competency and organizational excellence across the Middle East & Africa.
https://qfaplus.com
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